How To Make Short Films - w/ Akshansh & Harshita

how does one go about making a short F you have a really good height will look perfect for this role and I had a role of being a murderer I'm like no I'm sure there's some procedures that you need to follow I need to take someone permission he's like your camera your acting your script do it man doesn't it doesn't matter you don't have to fall thees so was it just to get YouTube Fame he was standing on his step toes around me so that he seems taller than me is this aans you're talking about just so I just so I'm understand you did not have that out no I was what have you learned from your firsthand experience watching your roommates do that editing I like how you said crush before teachers it's good to

said crush before teachers it's good to see where your priorities are we want thoc call sheets to act as deflectors what do you mean do it with your ey how do how does one do that that it's not just the high quality High cameras that get good quality and so technically the cool kids today do not have TR like obviously oh you you you're in the fashion Society in he was just talking about you just Welcome to The Ready Set do podcast where we learn from journeys of not experts who are just two steps ahead of us I'm Naman Pand and in this episode featured not experts are akan Pand and has Gupta akan and has are computer science engineering students at Kalinga Institute of industrial technology perhaps more notably they're both actors

perhaps more notably they're both actors and filmmakers having taught themselves how to make short films for their YouTube channel Link in description and the Film Society at kit they've released a few Titles since then and I highly recommend you take 5 minutes of your time to watch the Thriller Juda which stands for Sho in this extremely fun and light-hearted conversation although involving a decent amount of roasting we go over what got these two engineering students or nerds to get interested in film making in the first place and their first tints with acting we go over the art of acting itself and how all of us might be better actors than we give ourselves credit for from there we Deep dive into the process of making a short film itself covering camera angles

film itself covering camera angles cinematography sound video editing and lighting this entire section is littered with tips and tricks around how to make a film on a budget and any aspiring filmmaker can tap into these helpful tools to get started on their first movie One such example is the use of Beats to show blood on screen I'm sure that one would make white Sho very happy finally we go over some underrated and positive effects of having film making as a hobby this discussion is for anyone who's interested in film making engineering student or not and it's currently on the fence about where exactly to start with making their first fil in keeping with our theme of learning from somebody that's just two steps ahead of us instead of an expert I'd like to emphasize that the featured not experts are themselves right right

not experts are themselves right right now trying to figure out how to gain Mastery at movie making my goal with this conversation and this podcast as a whole is to get people off the starting blocks to a point from where they can start leveraging expert resources and tools that are available to gain Mastery at a particular thing this is The Ready Set to podcast and to support it please subscribe to my channel and check out the links in the description below and now without any further Ado my conversation with atan and Har welcome hello thank you so excited to you know pick your brains here today about how you've been managing such desparate different areas of you know religious life I guess but before we jump into the meat of things I want to talk about what

meat of things I want to talk about what else have you guys I guess gotten to you know get your hands dirty with CU like there's so many clubs nowadays um when I was in college for my own I guess personal anecdotal experience there used to be um M so used to be a really big thing everybody like all the cool kids we have that we have okay you have that also got it dur my time yeah M Society exactly yeah and at least during my time and all the cool kids seem to be into M because they used to get to travel there used to be like all these fests around that and whatnot but I guess curious to hear what

whatnot but I guess curious to hear what currently is like the in thing or what are the cool kids of these days in engineering schools doing when it comes to to extracurriculars I would like har to take up the cool kids uh coat first because you know she can have a she'll have a good experience to share I'm sure so so technically the cool kids today do not have friend like obviously so they usually go and take up fashion and they do not know anything about fashion either it's mostly politics they take politics it's mostly politics they take up singing they take up dancing and passion and they're not good at it like you know that this is going to be heard in the entire college right you have friends you still have to go back to college hey she's not naming any names

college hey she's not naming any names she's just saying generally she's just said three names of three different societies like different Society for all those three uh things that she mentioned so it's not even entire Community she's targeting to the said that to the face my best friends in the college and my best friends in the college are in the singing society and they do not know how to sing that's just because it's a very cool and popular Society in the college and it how are these people getting in then if it's if they're not good at this stuff shouldn't they not be in the club that's mostly because of politics and the pr connection they have in the society if I know someone I'd rather get the person who's who are known to the society than the person who actually deserves it so mostly these are filled

deserves it so mostly these are filled with people who are going around in groups and they're just like we own this college we can we cannot say that these clubs are doing good and that club are doing good and this is doing bad because again that kind of people that she mentioned that kind of nepotism it is there in every other place every other piece of thing that you touch in this world so that is going to be there in spite of that the clubs are doing fairly well and each of the clubs have good number of deserving and undeserving student that's fine so I've been in here for two years now and I'm a part of Film Society fashion Society there's this anchoring Society for hosts and anchors oh so you you you're in the fashion Society interesting so she was just

Society interesting so she was just talking about you just uh she herself was in the F she left it a few months ago so uh yeah fashion uh anchoring uh film then I play for our like college scen football and yeah that's pretty much it interesting and you said you had started off as an actor so how did that come to be like did somebody did a friend suddenly was like they were like hey do you want to act and you were like sure or was was there more of a story around that no not a friend I was just hanging around in the college and a faculty member who was also an actor came to me

member who was also an actor came to me and he's like you have a really good height uh and you will look perfect for this role and I had a role of being a murderer that's somewh concerning that you were who that person decided to that's really funny so he just came to me and he's like do you want to do this then I heard the role part like I just heard it he's that part was say like the girl is into this guy and the guy rejects the girl and he goes off to marry this another girl and the girl murders his wife wow and and and this was and this wife wow and and and this was a kit Film Society movie that's school this was the school that was like the uh project of a film student who was

the uh project of a film student who was pursuing that okay and guess what the film student is I'm I I I hope that you're going to meet him soon uh that's they made a film and that awesome awesome I just did because of the role I just found it very amusing he someone who's as Jolly as me can be cast into a character who's very Petty and all of that so I just want to do that so I'm very curious so personally I've never acted in any way in you know literally any capacity so I'm very curious but it's something I've thought about and aan I'll be getting to you as well in just a second but I'm really curious to hear your experience doing that for the

hear your experience doing that for the first time so like you read the script I'm assuming they gave you a script so you understood what the character is what their intentions are all of that good stuff and then you found yourself in front of a camera and somebody said like okay we're rolling and then like what did you do I guess what was your experience like I'm curious to hear that so when I went for a shoot I did not know anyone there everyone like all of the new faces and I was so awkward because that was the first time I was acting everyone was very experienced but they were all very nice to me it even if the first shot took like 100 shots they were comfortable with it because I was

were comfortable with it because I was very I was stammering a lot I was very nervous I was not comfortable with the camera naturally yeah I mean naturally obviously but they were very very cool about it they were very supportive and then I had to work on my Expressions because apparently I do not have a very good uh Happy expression that's what people have told me wait but can you can you dump it down for me if to me a happy expression is just somebody smiling is it more than that I just don't know if I it's like you have to have the expression the happy expression in your eyes you cannot just smile so that's take on camera you have to show the emotion and for me that happened was like smiling they were like you do it

like smiling they were like you do it with your eyes then it was difficult for me yeah like you must been like what do you mean do it with your eyes what like how do how does one do that but that's so interesting very interesting um call outs there akan what was it like for you your first tint with acting how did it come to be and what was your experience like I have a very uh Vivid and a descriptive story for it I was just writing a few points that I don't forget it because I'm so excited to share it uh so all like you said right now that you

so all like you said right now that you haven't ever acted in any way but that's not true but honestly if you see everyone around us has some at some point acted in their real life it's not in front of a camera I know that's very different but we all are good actors so in that sense I think all of us have always acted and we all have this one similar single dream that we all have shared in our school Liv as well that you know you might have ever thought ke what if there's a terrorist attack in our school right now what if there's a fire how we you know emerge as a super Bollywood uh hero you know saving your crush your teachers everyone so that kind of imaginations that kind of fantasies we all always have so I like

fantasies we all always have so I like how you said crush before teachers it's good to see where your priorities are I mean the teachers uh like physically if you see in know in my school days my teachers you don't have to explain yourself it's you're fine I mean you do not have to explain I had a good teachers used to punish more than the you know the crushes but at that that age yeah now we realized that that punishment was actually better than the punishment we get now are you okay I'm really okay sitting alone right here sorry to detract you yeah please continue yeah so everybody is an actor everybody has had those imaginations those yeah but still there is this distant like very distant uh like invisible kind of a boundary between it like we have always imagined it like

like we have always imagined it like like I have imagined myself as a football I imagined myself as an engineer I imagined myself as an actor as well but among all these three career options the one which seemed the least possible was the acting career and I never really found out why because it was as you know as competitive and difficult as the other careers but I think it is majorly because how different we feel you know how difficult it feels for us to you know keep keep us in a place of you know the great actors like shuk Khan and all of that right and it's also just difficult to break into right I get what it's difficult to break into in our country true and uh I remember there was this mu society's

remember there was this mu society's interview going on and I was like I have to be in immune Society because you know I'll develop my communication skills I gave my interviews I cleared few rounds of it and while I was coming down the stairs there was this small room small corner and there was apparently a Film Society auditions going inside I was like that sounds interesting what do they these guys do exactly they're like they make films I'm like they take anyone randomly from the college they make films they're like yeah all of you can be actors and Stu that sounds really interesting I remember our senior was there taking the interviews I went in there I was like I'm here to give an

there I was like I'm here to give an audition she's like what do you want to perform I was like I want to perform a schop phc role so what made you think of that what made you what prompted that I have watch a lot of movies I you know keep I think other if you're sitting alone you know if you have to act I think performing as you know a bit mentally challenged or something like that it makes it you know come out easy for skills to show that's what I interesting had a thought in that at that point of time he like right now I don't have a partner to perform my acting with so why not I just pretend

acting with so why not I just pretend there's someone there my entire role was that someone left me and I still thought that they are there with me and I perform the role they were happy with they they selected although at that moment the society was not at the peak of its entire you know Journey right now our society is at a much much much better place at that moment again no one actually thought about you know how good it could be for your communication skills film making was a really really good teacher for my communication skills my a lot of things that they said that you need to be in a delegation or a debating or elocution Society all those things I have been taught I have not been taught but I have learned actually that's very interesting and then once

that's very interesting and then once you guys were both in I'm assuming the next few months must have been like just um watching what the others are doing and learning from the experiences so uh she came in a very like very late I joined in my first year so so then I was this uh in this F society and for the entire first semester semester there was no activity at all like we did not it off like we had not even a meeting in the first year which is very surprising for me because all the other Society the dance and all of them they were having a blast you know so I was getting like

blast you know so I was getting like maybe I'm not in the right Society there's nothing to done over here and there is no teacher right very respected by our beloved PR he he is a genius guy he he was from the film School K has his own film school where they teach film cinematography deduction script writing a lot of things they they have proper professional equipments they have Studios they have uh like they study how to design a set so he got to become our coordinator and he was amazing like the way he handled our society the way he started from bottom the way he collected people the way he distributed leadership like I was given the uh leadership of acting Society uh acting department so I

acting Society uh acting department so I became the head of the acting department and uh my few other friends became the head of you know sound designing script writing arage AOS all these people they took off different departments which they were good at so from there of we made our first thing called restart which I was acting in uh and it was was directed byi I was just having a dream in my you know sleep I was like why not if I become the greatest footballer of all time something like that happens you know let's let's make a movie on that so I went to P I'm like I have this idea

I went to P I'm like I have this idea what to do he's like you have this idea let's make it I'm like no I'm sure there's some procedures that you need to follow I need to take someone's commission he's like your camera your acting your script do it man doesn't it doesn't matter you don't have to follow any procedures that restart was your first I guess you know up close cloth and personal experience with all of the stuffs it sounds like is that accurate yeah yeah that's that's that's when our society I think in fact won a award from the Ora government or something traffic government or something they made a short animation film on load safety and they won a special price for that as well and from there everything started

well and from there everything started took off unfortunately restart did not get any prices that competition we participated in but we won another price in the Indian film project uh in Mumbai it happened they our coordinators took the FM to Mumbai they got a bronze or a silver I'll give a lot of you know credits to our core team us the department heads the coordinators a lot of them the members supported a lot so that's how it took off and that's where I started you know getting impr now finally I have a movie that's on YouTube and that features me and I'm acting in it awesome what was it like for you has what was your first I guess up and close similar experience to akan like what was

similar experience to akan like what was your first movie or project maybe what be the one where you were acting was that your first I guess up and close with film making would you say um so I had been into this field like not technically acting but a part of this field so my I wanted to pursue was going to nift so I had been doing all of these I had been organizing fashion shows in in this District I had been many fashion contests and I was modeling so I had been into this field for a very long time it was not an it was not something new for me yeah I told you like anything that creative that brings up my interest

that creative that brings up my interest the only reason I got into the society was akan and his friends so I knew he told about prak Baya so I knew prak Baya because of the first movie I was doing he was the person who came up to me and he's like do you want to do the movie you look very do you want to act the role of a murderer I'm like okay why not so I knew him before the Film Society and I had no interest in joining the Film Society until them and then was like he was always like you are a part of Film Society officially or unofficially so you in the films you don't have to

you in the films you don't have to officially join the society I see so that was the case for me it was not like I was looking for something awesome so I guess that naturally brings us to the next you know segment here which is Charlo which for our listeners that that was your pet uh like Pet Project almost or like your internal YouTube group essentially right I'm really interested in learning your motivations for making that so was it just to get YouTube fame or was there an element of let's build something of our own or both I I'm going to tell you that so um and his friends have been like friend since almost first year they lived in the same hospel they were all they all are very creative act and they're

are very creative act and they're amazingly genius like all of them have such a good IQ and they are they're very imaginative and they made up a story Daga that they wanted to shoot and and I were just becoming friends in the second year we were talking and then he's like one day he comes up to me he's like you are close to me now you are part of a friend group so I need to tell you about this project that we had been thinking of making for almost an year so he sat me and this another guy Orco so they sat me and Orco down and they're like we are

me and Orco down and they're like we are making this we are thinking of the script Daga it's a five episode series we are still we have to make that like now but we need the resources and the time for that M so we'll most probably do that when we we go back to college so okay awesome he start us down and he's like this is the episode one and I was so amazed because the story line was so amazing I could not guess the ending he was was like like try end the ending and bro maybe um the ending is very cliche like no I want a logical ending to that so that's where the his engineer Factor got in Practical approach even so I have a little bit idea about social media and

little bit idea about social media and stuff so I was like I'll handle your social because that Daga things seemed very amazing and it was like it just brought up that factor in me that I want this to actually become very big did either of you have experience on YouTube until this point or was that gained after you know through tinkering and just learning on the job he is also part of he had experience with YouTube so he handles the YouTube part I do not know anything about YouTube so he's the one who handles YouTube like our computer and editing you know the nerd genius you you have in a group right that's our he's like the editor the the YouTubey he has had a lot of YouTube subscribers at one point

of YouTube subscribers at one point remember he was like telling us about it 5,000 or something he used to do gaming on so on he had a lot of that and he had a lot of connection on Discord with a lot of foreign streamers which he lost after he stopped gaming for again IJ but yeah he was good at it so that all is super interesting to me I feel like up next I kind of want to drill down just a little bit on the entire process maybe not the entire process maybe we can focus on like the main ments just for now but alluding to akan your point earlier about each of the various verticals that really make up the finished product which is you know a 5 minute short film so I'll pick one that I have seen personally so I'm

that I have seen personally so I'm talking about Juda and for our listeners I'll link the link like the YouTube link for the short film in the show note captions so you guys can go and check it out as well I highly recommend it it's very well done but maybe we'll pick that particular one just because I'm familiar with it and then can you walk me through I guess guess for somebody that's not from the field that doesn't know anything like we just take me literally um how does one go about making a short F and we we'll start with like the we'll remove all the fluff around it so obviously I get that you need to write your scrip first I know that that's the

your scrip first I know that that's the first thing that comes to you know any of this so you have your script ready you had an idea you wrote it down now it's time to hit record and then it's obviously time to edit that stuff and all of that so maybe starting from the point where you you know are beginning to record can you both maybe tag team uh and like walk me through how that process goes I would I would suggest something we just divide the segment two uh let Hera take on the part of how we made Zuta and then I'll you know guide you through the how to make a short F there because that's something you know it's very fun I have a very fun story

it's very fun I have a very fun story to like we did not follow the conventional ways of making a short fil we tried camera we tried tried everything that was like we were figuring out what's the what's best for us and I had that movie that was shot twice so it was it was a very different approach to shooting so we had done another movie as well Tas and all so how we did that and how we did juta they were two different stories all together what were those things that you did wrong or maybe could have done better that that's what I'm curious to learn so for Juda it was not technically our story so akan was shooting that and he came up to tomorrow we have a shoot at 6

came up to tomorrow we have a shoot at 6 you have to be ready at 6 be up at 6 you have to come for the sh I'm 6 here 6 a.m. 6 a.m. no I figured yeah like 11:00 p.m. like go sleep bro you have to wake up at 5:00 and come at come to shoot at 6:00 I'm like huh be like huh come like okay fine and one of the fact is that he and I have a major height difference I'm taller and conventionally the guy has to be taller so yeah so that was the uh thing he was standing on his tip toes around me so that he seems taller than

around me so that he seems taller than me is this aan you're talking about just so I just so I'm understand you did not have that out no I was no no I I genuinely I did not I just I was just clarifying I do not mean to she's uh she's actually tall she's around 510 or 11 I'm 51 I see and he's sorry sorry to interrupt please please continue yeah who are you talking about he 63 I guess so yeah so we like the had an idea he wrote a script the script was perfect the script was amazing the only thing that was like perfect and that we had ready was the script otherwise we did not have any uh knowledge about had this camera and we shot with that camera but

camera and we shot with that camera but it was not good and I think that the camera died during like in between of the shoot and then we took out our iPhone and we just started shooting and we bro like the quality is much better than the cameras we should use use iPhone to shoot the whole and at that point we had done like four scenes already and then we had to okay those scenes we had like we started the whole movie again then there was this scene where aange was getting beaten up and uh they used beetroot to make the the color of the blood and they used uh scooter light to should put the light on Akash so yep yep yep it was a lowbudget movie we had like a budget of five Rupees at maass that was travel

maass that was travel and I guess money for the beetroots like I guess money so uh it was a very lowbudget movie we were like using lights of spy to give the proper lighting because at night you cannot get light so you have to flash another light and you have to make the room so if you have to give a very dark themed so you have to have a little bit of red tint to the background so all of that was there and then there was uh the editor Sagar he was friend of Roommates with Vish the director so they were okay uh in the room editing all the time and everything so editing we learned from Sagar the biggest learning

learned from Sagar the biggest learning I would say so basically the first movie we sh was restart right for kid FM society and then we made a movie for Char so kid Society the movie we sh it on a camera so we thought that that's even like that's the conventional method to shoot a mve on camera we brought a camera we start with a shoot but it's obviously not a phone's camera is not as good as a normal actual camera right so what she actually meant was the hard work that it makes to make a normal camera look good on the final product it takes a lot of editing for that whereas our phone cameras are already uh like tuned to the way to please FES basically so I see she had a good phone uh and we

so I see she had a good phone uh and we figured that it's going to take a lot of time effort and uh a lot of things uh which we won't be able to afford like a lot of proper lighting and everything to make make a proper a normal camera look give a good product out for and we do not have that much budget we basically spend nothing on this movie so the biggest learning that came out of it was you do not need a lot of things to make a movie that was like the biggest thing I learned you could make a movie out of your one single room like our friends Oran s they have done that before as

Oran s they have done that before as well they have made movies out of their room you can sit inside a room you can take your friends you can take a phone and you can just decide and you can start that's what that that's awesome another thing that we the angles really matter like the angles okay so the angles are we took a shot three times from different angles and we figured out which angle is the best for which set of mood so if there's something that's very troubling you do the side angle if if you're happy you do it from nearby to show the emotions so all of the angles interesting so you have to have a major knowledge about angles that we learned during the making

angles that we learned during the making of the movie so it took a lot of time to make a movie because of that right understandably and when you say angles are you referring to so like stuff like the rule of thirds so if you draw two lines vertically and horizontally on the on your frame like the thing that you want the viewers eyes on should be positioned on like the middle four you know like Corners cuz that's like each third for each horizontal vertical so one of the subsections of it like uh when you talk about the camera uh the main thing about cinematic graphy is not the quality that video comes up the quality of cinematography lies in the skill with which you shoot the knowledge of the cinematographer that what needs to be shown to the viewers and what

to be shown to the viewers and what needs to be highlighted like you said the rule of thought that's one thing we obviously follow and there are a lot of things like different angles one of them was like a bizarrely a bit of tilted angle to show evil and all that there's the thing which cinematographers used they just tilt the camera a little and the frame is tilted and the main the antagonist is in the center of the camera so it gives a bit of tilted and quirky feeling so all the slight tilts slight changes all of that we you know we understood that how camera angles could change the user experience all together lighting angle all of that had such a big impact that you understood that it's not just the high quality highend cameras that can get good quality end product but the quality lies

quality end product but the quality lies in the scale actually so even if you don't have a good budget you can make a good film out of a very basic 20 megap camera or 12 megapix camera that you get r XI phone it justs that if you can use that poor quality of camera the crispiness the grains that the camera will bring you can use it to your own poetry of script and you know so there are moments where you actually actually need a lower quality camera you could have so we s this you must have seen that re it was short on iPhone 13 Pro Max camera but in the editing we had to reduce the quality

the editing we had to reduce the quality so Downs because we wanted the pixelated the grainy feeling to fall back into the flashbacks and that is very grainy and it's very blurry like it's not vivid so a lot of things can be done in things a lot of things can be done in the editing part of it which helps enhance the quality and all that visual appearance everything so mainly what goes into a camera work cinematography is the angles the correct sense of what you want to show to the users what the final product should look like if you know what it should look like you don't need a highend camera always I'm not denying that you should you know change and all of that you obviously need a high camera but for a beginner you can

high camera but for a beginner you can make a movie out of nothing as right and second point I was going to tell about the script scripts are never being followed scripts never get followed in a short movie as you know really that that's so interesting what do you mean by that firstly we are uh we are very amature actors we are amature story writers right we are not Geniuses in our art of work and scripts are usually made by uh so there is a script writing head in filmm society arage and he has a he has always been saying like what happened whatever WR nothing ever gets shot it doesn't matter what we and he you know blams about it

what we and he you know blams about it sometimes and in a very fun way obviously he nice person so that's actually true because whatever is written in the script it sounds good on paper but when you going to shoot it it might not look so appealing to the camera so you have to change it a lot of times like you must have known that Aman is fam for famous for doing this in his films he's very well known that he doesn't go by the script all the time he has a lot of he takes a lot of fun in improvising and he likes to change a lot yeah and which is very prevalent in short contents because in short frames you don't have a lot of time to re-shoot

you don't have a lot of time to re-shoot it thousand times you can't shoot it a thousand times you have to get what you get that's all so if the actor has improvised if it works good you'll just let him be that and then sometimes while shooting now the script writers we form a model but in the middle of the movie we might change a little bit of script we might change a little bit of plock so there are and it like it sounds simple but when you kind of change you know five words said in the middle of a movie it is going to have a big impact in the entire movie right because there could be some as well so plus a big thing that comes in shortterm creation if you have to use

in shortterm creation if you have to use nature nature is something you can't uh you know manipulate in short context so big budget films they have these highi lights sets and all that right we do not have it we need to use sunlight as sunlight is so if we s a film on Monday and we need to reshoot one part of that se like suppose 100% of this is done 80% is good 20% we need to REO we have to wait for the same weather sunlight clouds trees to be the exact same way or else we have a big and it's very obvious so I see what about those reflector

so I see what about those reflector thingies that you can use for the sun you know the what I mean like that silver reflecting thing is that something you use at all I guess okay comes to the low budget yeah we very like have a very low budget we want thermocol sheets to act as reflectors and it has the purpose of a million dollar equipment the thermocol seet is a million dollar equipment I'm telling you because if you were working in a closed room you have a lot of power to manipulate light as a small budget also you will have you know it will take it takes around 3,000 or 5,000 to buy a small light and it's amazing it's a full package it's great it has a lot of flexibility uh I can tell you company and all that if you want to put description but it has a lot of features

description but it has a lot of features that really helps you know while shooting and a thermocol basically what it does like uh if you want a light to come to your uh like actor's face if you point the light to its face it's going to be very rough and it's going to look like some pointing Aus so you want that light to look natural so at times while we shooting we are shooting suppose so we have college we have to go to college that's a big part of our hustle right you have to shoot then you have to go college so suppose we started shooting them on the morning like around 8:00 a.m. or something we short half off it

a.m. or something we short half off it till 10:00 a.m. then we have to go to college at 11: we go to the college we come back at 6:00 now and we have to complete the shooting by which we started so the sunlight coming inside the room it's not the same and we have to fake a sunlight coming inside the room for that we need to you know have a light set like behind the curtain and then you need a thermocold to deflect the light on the active so that it feels like it's still morning right so that kind of manipulation to make the day the night the night the day that requires a lot of light play and tho calls and

lot of light play and tho calls and lights so that is something we do in our short budget things we just use it sounds like yeah and it really just to sorry to interject but it sounds like it's that you know constant theme of jugar that really ches in anywhere yeah like you're literally just looking to solve problems in the most efficient cost time and effort efficient way possible and like I feel like a lot of what you're laying out really just BS down to that basically right yeah and this is a you know this is a good uh so sometimes when I'm in a in our society meetings I tell these to my other members that you do not need a lot of things to shoot a film you just need a

things to shoot a film you just need a phone you just need some friends and you'll be done with it that's all that's all you need because in Zuta we did not even have that 2,000 rupee light so right now we have a light which is you know 3,000 4,000 around and it it's really good in Zuta we used table lights uh and not even th call we just use three four table life and our white wall that we have in our room and we like uh shadow WR the light on our wall and it reflected very fine and it made it you can't understand if it's day or night in our movie if you watch it like it could

our movie if you watch it like it could be a there is a little bit of issues in Shadow sometimes if you really look close but we did a okay job to pull it off without spending at all we just use like rooms the that study lamp right makes sense and then let's jump to the next I guess stage of this whole process which is editing so before we dive into that how familiar are both of you with what goes into editing or what makes it you know a good edit when it comes to that final polished product of a short film so editing mostly I am learning right now so in our gr Charlo we have editors amand and dunin and they are akansha's roommates so he sees all of

akansha's roommates so he sees all of the editing I do not and I see like one of the major parts the shooting and everything is very easy it's you you just have to like given three four days to do the shoots at Max and then the editing you have to coordinate the light you have to see with scenes comes after with scenes and then there are fillers and then there's fade in Fade Out effect all of the effects like how do you shift from this scene to the next scene without it being like abrupt so if you are and then you just show this angle it will seem abrupt like you have to move from here to here but we've showed two different angles like one we shot here

different angles like one we shot here and then you one we shot here so how do you move from this to this without so editing is like one of the most major parts and you have to be like very dedicated to do editing it's like the most exhausting acting shooting Cinema script writing is like kids in front of editing editing is what makes the movie The Angles and all they matter they do matter but if the editing is B nothing actually you yeah a what have you learned from your firsthand experience watching your roommates do that entertain like the appreciation to the editors that comes from my deep from my heart like the entire way of me watching a movie has changed by when we started film making so now we cannot ever see the movies like we used to when we were

the movies like we used to when we were not like normal I would say when we were not referring to like the j cuts L Cuts or even more details like if you watch a movie now we don't like watch a movie in a constant way that you know normal viewer watches they like okay this is happening that is happening you always try to guess the story of us actually but now what it happens to us that we are not just guessing the story we are guessing how the camera is actually the person behind the camera is shooting we can imagine where the light is coming from and now we can see the

is coming from and now we can see the small tweaks and things they can you know they going we can spot the much quicker so you know the critical eyes that we have got after making a film we love it like it's so much fun that we can point out stuff in a movie which you can't normally yeah and this is also made by professionals so the fact that you and pinpoint that is even more cool yeah and it and it just shows that you know there's always a chance for you know more Perfection than even if you professional you'll always have something missing out something and you can't and you know sometimes as a professional you obviously not going to make mistakes with your camera angle or

make mistakes with your camera angle or something like that they are obviously great at that but they sometimes do mistake with you know delivering the message from the movie which you can spot as a maker and a viewer both as a viewer you'll be like I did not get the feeling but then as a maker you can also tell you know why you couldn't get the F now we feel okay this was just not possible to deliver this message was too long to deliver in such short camera so all of that you get to know okay we want to display this emotion suppose I'm a crazy person I have to act this so I

crazy person I have to act this so I need at least one minute of frame time to deliver that message minut they will not feel it the users be like overacting like there is a one part in our movie Juda where people are like this is very over and which I agree because normally if perform that in front of you as a theater it would look very nice because theater is much different than film making because film making it matters if you look at it for 1 minute 30 minutes it changes a lot of things in theater you see someone doing drama in front of you you'll feel the pain and all that in front of you because you'll be you know not thinking about a lot of

be you know not thinking about a lot of you know background sound and all that yeah whereas in a movie you have to recreate the sound and everything with that situation being so editing is a is like 20% of the movies is made before editing and 80% of it is done after editing editing is the biggest part of it so if you see sound designing as well like that's what I was coming to that that's what I was coming to video editing is again okay you can like if you you know divide it it's like pre-production then the post production okay and then post production May video editing and then sound rating is this big it's like a whole thing another level because firstly you have a little about it a lot

firstly you have a little about it a lot of people don't know good sound Ting what sound editing is so we have our Master sound reader in our society called a he has his proper like setup of sound equipment and he's really great at it so what sound editing is it sounds so uh weird when you actually like it sounds simple when you actually think of it you know you just have to edit the sound out you know put fade over here mute the sound press it up it sounds so simple but when you look at him work he has to create the sound of your shoes from he has to walk around in his room

from he has to walk around in his room with a mic attached to his shoe so that he could he can create the exact walking of he does that and we have we are so like I remember there was this time we like had two three bottles of water just to recreate the the gulping sound of you know while you're drinking yeah Dr two bottles of this might be a stupid question but do do you not is it not possible to find stock sound effects for this type of stuff I would imagine yeah so if you go around finding a stock uh sound you will obviously find it but the the actual you know the connection so there is a connection Gap uh this is your music the which it should have the

your music the which it should have the video that is and if you want to find the exact match it's just impossible to you know that would connect exactly there I see you always have this this and that would become very easily catchable for the viewers I see like you need it to be customizable and not something that comes stock and you have to be perfect with the sound because entire film is fa if you don't have good it's just rubbish it will sound like what are I feel like I'm really enjoying you talk about this because I feel like when I make my intros for the podcast I feel like I'm just realizing that I've been completely ignoring the audio aspect of it which is um you know it's

aspect of it which is um you know it's like a funny realization but it makes a lot of sense what you're laying out that without those effects it the whole thing really just Falls flat on its face I mean if you look at normal YouTube videos as well they put a lot of sound effects and all that in that but that's something you know that has is a it's a it's a box in for YouTube you know there's a box you have to do these many things and that's still doable you have to snc your video with your sound that's make that's making sense that's basic but when it comes to film making you have to have your background noise correct you have to have the right crickets noise like there's a crickets noise in every you know so yeah if you

noise in every you know so yeah if you go for stock noises of crickets now it's going to sound so made up like obviously crickets don't sound the way they sound the other five 10 Stock folders that you have you have have to go out at night you have to just record what your night feels like there yeah because yeah that's one thing that is a major issue so if you're recording it on spot you'll say why don't you just record it on spot and you know while you're filming it so that's where our budget constraint comes in big proper production have a lot of good mic set up and all that so they can you know just put your mics just right above your head and they can record most of it but whereas for us we don't have

of it but whereas for us we don't have that like Liberty so we have to sometimes we do the entire dubbing in our room because we have good mics but those mics are not like you know something we can take to set we have it on you might have a podcast M with you like a podcast mic with you so we have that with our friends so we just go to their room we borrow it for some minutes and we like dubing we're trying to recreate the same emotion we had on the road so that kind of difference it kind of Clicks in so audio plays a very big role video as a lot of it it's like it's like a puzzle love that amazing Deep

like a puzzle love that amazing Deep dive around around that AC it really shows how how you know well versed you are with the little time honestly that you've gotten to spend in this field um I guess that kind of brings us to the end of that whole short film process I guess I just want to leave the floor open for any other notable call outs that we may have missed that you would want to um share around that process that maybe doesn't fall into one of those categories but it's good to know for anybody that's you know trying to go out there and make their first short film really anything if you want to call out please feel free to do so in in this in this like I would have something as a

in this like I would have something as a personal opinion to all of the viewers that we have everyone in fact I have a this something that comes from my heart and this is something which is not very much heard of people don't talk about film making as a very uh common H hobby lot very little people share this uh interest in you know film making lot of content creators are true but film making is not that you know Prevail so what this actually helps you in if you actually think about it the Poetry that you write on paper and then you show it on camera it becomes a really really beautiful thing and even if it's not for the others to view it it will always remain as a memory for you so I'm sure when I'm 20 years older from

so I'm sure when I'm 20 years older from now what I I look back at my video I look back at the juta film I remember my friends I remember the scene that was of the set and I'll obviously have a smile on my face because I still do it's been a year that we start restart or something and I it makes me happy when I see the behind the scenes of the movie so I would say everyone should make at least one film at least they should just take up their phon write a some stupid script script doesn't matter that much if you want to just make right just hit record right yeah just hit record make the thing script matters no like there's

the thing script matters no like there's no uh deman to that script does matter but you can make good script if you have good company if you have good friends you just sit together you talk something and you'll come up with good and you'll make good stuff out it so make something just go out film it even if that doesn't make you know it doesn't come out as a good product for YouTube level or you know getting pay and all you will have a very great memory even if the product was not good you will have a good behind the scenes and those behind the scenes are your life actually so you have to add Those Behind the Scenes to your life it's like a puzzle that is missing you'll enjoy it you'll grow communicate like management we learned a lot about film making while we

learned a lot about film making while we did that we learned how to manage people how to you know keep people in their right temperament you know it makes me happy every time I talk about so I want people to feel that as well I want them to add this behind the scenes in their life so that they could remember it after 20 years and smile love that it really you know it shines through how passionate you are about um what clearly started out just you know by accident like you just happen to pass through that room and it's really sounds like it's brought you to a point where you you know it's such an integral point of your life right now it doesn't even mean that I have to make a profession in this

that I have to make a profession in this it's not it's 100% not going to be my career I'm not going to pursue making for EO this is just something I'm doing for fun it's something that is a hobby but I'm learning a lot from it about people about nature about about what we see and what we learn because while making film now you'll understand what gets to the people's eyes like a lot of things that you can the power of film making the stories the messages that you can convey you don't have to make a profession you don't have to make this profession but one should always taste this hobby a thank you so so much for taking the time today it's been an absolute pleasure sitting down here and learning from you both and I wish you

learning from you both and I wish you the the very best not just just in your professional Endeavors but also I hope to continue watching your Creations on YouTube and elsewhere maybe a can film festival you know nomination maybe like a couple years down the road who's who's to say um very very excited for you guys' Futures and yeah looking forward to watch you grow and smash continue smashing this for having us here thank you so much for having you so much thank you so much for having us that brings us to the end of episode 13 of the ready that do podcast thank you so much for sharing these conversations with those who continue to benefit from them if you would like to support this podcast please consider subscribing to my YouTube channel and

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